Comments on: Absent Councillor Still On Payroll

By: Philosophorum

Sat, 29 Dec 2012 05:58:16 +0000

If 30 people say a color is white, and one person says it is black, that one person might be right, and the 30 wrong. But I wouldn’t bet much on it.

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By: Karla Sofen

Sat, 29 Dec 2012 02:59:48 +0000

No amount of belief establishes any fact. If a million people believe something that is untrue, it still is untrue. The story left out the key facts the reader needed to decide the issue. Believe what you want as much as you want. It does not change reality.

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By: Central Saanich Resident

Thu, 27 Dec 2012 04:55:52 +0000

It is an obvious ‘red herring’ when commentators like Karla try to twist the issue around and make the matter about the writer and deflect attention away from the real issue-Siklenka’s actions and the majority of council’s poor judgement. Does Karla and other like minded individuals, really believe that the people of Central Saanich are so ignorant that they do not see through this ruse?

And by the way, thank you Ryan for having the courage to present the facts in an unbiased manner. If anyone is going to hold this story against Ryan, then I encourage them to write a better story-instead of criticizing someone who is actually doing something for the community. He broke this story and without him, Siklenka would probably be getting full pay and benefits right now. And somehow Karla thinks this is actually in the best interests of Central Saanich?

Being an armchair critic is easy, but why not try to actually do something for a change (Karla et al.)?

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By: Karla Sofen

Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:01:11 +0000

What’s telling here is what was left out and why it was left out. So, he has some inside source of information – but the source leaves out the key details? Who did the “editing” and why was the critical point completely deleted? And all the media who “advanced” the story – for some reason critical information “wasn’t discovered”? This is just another example of media bias. It’s a good reason for the CRD to stop automatically voting for liberal candidates and vote in some conservatives. In my home province of Saskatchewan, they had 75 years of NDP type government – and they were a have-not province. Now, Saskatchewan is rich and prosperous. I recently read they had surpassed Alaska in proven conventional oil reserves. The difference? They elected conservatives and got rid of the wheat board. The CRD likewise could become prosperous instead of nearly bankrupt by electing Conservatives. I suppose we have to really hit bottom before we do anything. Not looking forward to the thud.

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By: Jake Scoodner

Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:22:58 +0000

Ryan Windsor should have done some investigate before he brought this to light. All this does now is hurt his election chance not only in 2014 but also well into the future.

This is one voter who will not forget this.

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By: PhantomKanuck

Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:05:08 +0000

Hard not to loose sight of the big prize—democracy and the right to govern ourselves. Maybe the misinformation and outcome of the unfortunate Siklenka story could have been avoided if the Central Saanich council had not gone in camera. Keep our government open to the people. Terry touted transparency but has been found incognito! This causes massive fits of confusion to citizens like Karla and myself. We are not hiding anything. We are open, honest, and speaking up for transparency in an open and honest government system. Unlike the council in camera the Sun and Times Colonist must not have done their own research. Karla and I need true lights not false light to shed upon us. By the way, I like Slegg’s moving to the Keating area. Hope that’s true KS.

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By: Karla Sofen

Sun, 02 Dec 2012 19:52:51 +0000

The Times-Colonist re-reported Ryan’s information uncritically and did no investigation of their own. It’s a lot like the Times-Colonist when they write stories about UFOs or Big Foot and they say, “The National Enquirer reported yesterday that…” They likewise did not allow any public comments on the issue. So Ryan can’t get credibility because his information was re-distributed. It’s pretty much identical to what we have here. Nothing added, nothing taken away. Basically the city council knew what was going on and Ryan and the public didn’t and dark motivations and evil conspiracies and misuse of public funds were inferred by people who really didn’t know the facts. Now that you do know the facts, you don’t believe it and persist in believing a conspiracy theory. Fine. No amount of belief establishes any fact. If a million people believe something that’s incorrect, it’s still incorrect.

I’m just glad the story has a happy ending for Mr. Siklenka. He won’t worry a bit about Central Saanich anymore and has no more concern for the criticism from political opponents. He’s got an umbrella cocktail and a nice day at the beach every day of the year and can keep cool with a nice air-conditioner when he wants to. I hope Cayman Islands is Siklenka’s “Galt’s Gulch” and the he and his family are happy and prosperous.

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By: Editor

Sat, 01 Dec 2012 19:06:42 +0000

Our policy is to allow as much discussion as possible, and to let everyone have a say. This thread is turning into an argumentum ad hominum. If you’d like to comment on the FACTS, by all means write a comment. If you want to attack someone, please use another medium. I will not approve any further attacks on individuals.
Editor

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By: Concerned Citizen

Sat, 01 Dec 2012 18:44:17 +0000

Karla

Ryan did an excellent job in CLEARLY stating the facts pertaining to this particular Councillor Terry Siklenka. Have you even listened to the two interviews from the Cayman Islands? IT IS YOURSELF that has the facts misconstrued. In all of your replies you have not ONCE mentioned the TImes Colonist-Province-The Vancouver Sun plus all of the TV stations that erred the article. It seems to us who respond that you have a personal vendetta against Ryan Windsor and this makes us howl with laughter each time you post a reply and just goes to show How childish you are

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By: D. Leonsaari

Sat, 01 Dec 2012 07:30:41 +0000

Karla, do you live in CS?

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